#88 VSPB Rebuild begins

by on 2010/07/10


Please visit my site alt-nrg.org for latest news. Rebuilding of the VSPB hydrogen cell for use in the Toyota Tacoma. Categories: HOH, Efficient Home heating, Energy Conservation, Renewable Energy, Alternate Energy, Hydrogen Fuel Cell, Hybrid Electric Car, Solar power, Wind Power, Gas Mileage Booster, Science Fair, Greenhouse Gases, CO2, Water Fuel Cell.

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usssovren4ever July 10, 2010 at 1:31 AM

Use C-clamps instead of rubber bans!

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM

HEY IT’S EINSTEIN HERE ONCE AGAIN !!! since you always need vids to see MR.ZERO… i found one for you !!! here are young future NIKOLA TESLA’S.. ….
” NO MORE HHO ” it’s only in it’s infancy but it will grow just wait and see !!!

sodapop503 July 10, 2010 at 3:21 AM

Do you think a more finely toothed blade would work better? such as one for metal.

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 4:01 AM

since oxy sticks to the positve plates and hydrogen on the negative, would there be a good design to harvest the H ? see jchemed.chem on electrolisys.. there’s a vid and pix that shows seperate production of the gases. but the goal is to use only tap water ….no harmful lyes . i hope this will be helpful to everyone !!!!! GOOD LUCK to you ZEROZEROZEROBIGZEROZEROSUCHABIGZEROZEROSTILLZERONILZEROZERO

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 4:41 AM

i’m asking you to heed the idea that the HHO gas is a mixed H and O, hydrogen is the useful fuel and pure oxygen interferes when combusting in engines . these gases are available in tanks, i’ ve had an experiment using a oxy-acet torch with an unlimited supply H and O , (2 :1 ratio for HHO) fed it in an engine ,, i toyed with it for a while then tried using no oxy. THE ENGINE RUNS BETTER USING OnLY HYDRGEN !!! ambiant air only has 21% oxy , mostly nitro that aids compression

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 4:44 AM

well my stailess and copper combined with neutralplates eats up 1 liter of tap water( just like dingel,s consumption ) per hour ,12 volts at 25 amps. ran it in a truck with an auxillary alternator ( to run half of them) with a pedal switch….. and yes guess what milage improved just a very tiny bit !! the project burnt a big hole in my pocket… i guess you got a bigger hole,.. the point is .. there is something wrong with HHO and something must be done…

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 5:26 AM

i was expecting that kind of answer from you !!! it’s true i”ve registered only recently but it doesn’t mean i’m new here , im not even smart imade my HHO a year and a half ago out of a whole sheet 4ft x 8ft of gauge 22 S.S. and 4ft x 4 ft ,,, all cut into 4 inches by 4 inches … where is it ? it’s right here in the PHILIPPINES where DANIEL DINGEL lives !!! sorry for not posting a vid of my gadet , my gadget is housed in a fiberglass casing about the size of a truk battery,

ZeroFossilFuel July 10, 2010 at 5:38 AM

Really? Wow. You must be very smart. You’ve been a YouTube member for one whole week, watched 1,127 in that one week. You must be the expert. So, Mr. Einstein, where’s yours?

MrRapsahaybu July 10, 2010 at 6:04 AM

hi there ZFF i see you’ve spent too much time , effort and money with the idea of HHO . Have you ever run a 4 cyl engine with that gas alone even just for idling speed ? it can’t! i guess WE got it wrong .. HHO is a mixed gas – hydro and oxy … stan and daniel used only hydrogen….i think this has to be reconfigured , we must extractract the H alone and discard the oxygen. ya know why ? have you tried burning hydrogen gas only? well it pops ! oxy only ? the fire glows !! figure it out guys

ninjamatic5000 July 10, 2010 at 6:56 AM

cool video bro

st1dinoh July 10, 2010 at 7:48 AM

i hate to break it to you. but you forgot to advance the cable ties beyond the lettering on the side. meaning the top end of the plates have more separation than the bottom.

sorry to break it to you, but just in case you are getting odd results…you may want to re-glue this sucker again.

ZeroFossilFuel July 10, 2010 at 8:27 AM

I actually have about 15 plates of Iconel about 2.5″ x 5″ given to me that never got wet. It’s very brittle and I don’t know how would attach current carrying wires to is safely.

buddah30 July 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM

as far as metals go there is one better than 316l it’s something like 316lm or some other leter after the l. There’s also a metal called iconel. It’s a bit more expensive but better corrosion resistance. Or you could use the ultimate—Platinum—. Of course you may have to take a small loan against your house for it :) )

ZeroFossilFuel July 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM

It’s goop brand marine adhesive. But I think I’m going back to 3M. Had much less foaming in the cell.

3255959 July 10, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Nice job, what brand of marine goop is that? also is it rated for over 200*?

EasyTBear July 10, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Salt in your water produces chlorine gas. Aluminum in KOH or NAOH produces hydrogen but the aluminum does not last long. Thats why people use stainless steel.

MindTrip888 July 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Thats a good point I guess.
I have been trying some aluminium tubes one within another, in 1 spoon of salt water, and I noticed one got shinier than the other.
So I reversed it to see how it went and of course the other got shiny too.
But I am only starting and experimenting to see what happens. I did find I got two lots of powdery substance at both ends of the tubes polarized, and eventually when left it sank to be two layers of this silt which looks salty & metalic. probably toxic.

EasyTBear July 10, 2010 at 11:12 AM

It also destroys the conditioning of the plates.

MindTrip888 July 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Tho initially, my idea about the reversing was about every hour. And if you doing it manual this should have a major effect.
I do wonder about these “neutral” plates and their use? For it would seem a smaller gap between plates would create several things. It would increase the capitance, increase the Capacitive Reactance Resistance to pulses, reduce the current, and increase the output of gases.
I will have to start some experiments when I make some room, being in 2 br flat, pc’s take the room.

MindTrip888 July 10, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Yeah thinking about it, the high currents with a the relay (while live) would cause an arcing. I used to use relays for experiments with Jacob’s ladders, and zappers for home make electric fences etc. But if the circuit was designed to cut power, then do it, it could be part of the intergral system. Even part of the electronics using SCR type sets up. But there are probably better components. It’s been many years since I have been electronics hobbist. I have many parts, but no room to play. lol.

rhblakeman July 10, 2010 at 1:17 PM

I’ve heard this elsewhere and it might make sense to release the deposits he gets on one side of the plates. I’m redesigning mine to fit behind my bumper in the front wheel well so I might put a heavy rated double pole double throw switch in to reverse the poles of the plates but not the relays and such obviously.

MindTrip888 July 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Something about electrolysis effect is that the one plate polarity gets eaten away, and usually gets deposited onto the other plate. And if you reverse the polarity, that it then reverses the effect.
So an idea for you.
To have your electronics use a relay which reverses polarity every so often with the famous dpdt reversing crossover switch wiring.

So if you reverse the polarity every few minutes, the leaching of the plate on the negative size should be greatly reduced in theory for long term.

ZeroFossilFuel July 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM

I see you found it already but I’ll post it here anyway.

316L

ZeroFossilFuel July 10, 2010 at 2:31 PM

I would not go less than 1/2″

offgrid918 July 10, 2010 at 3:12 PM

What is the name of the better stainless steel plates that you have used? My husband and I were watching video’s at midnight and can’t remember what you said..

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