#90 – Some VSPB cell assembly details up close

by on 2010/07/15


Please visit my site alt-nrg.org for latest news. Detailed description of how to assemble a couple of tricky parts to the VSPB HHO Cell. Categories: HOH, Efficient Home heating, Energy Conservation, Renewable Energy, Alternate Energy, Hydrogen Fuel Cell, Hybrid Electric Car, Solar power, Wind Power, Gas Mileage Booster, MPG booster, Science Fair, Greenhouse Gases, CO2, Water Fuel Cell.

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adeelrizvi2 July 15, 2010 at 1:26 AM

Hello sir,

From where i can buy these plates? is there any online shopping store from where i can buy this ?. I dont live in USA..

Or if you can make one cell for me and take the money from me and send it to me via some service to Pakistan.

waiting for your reply.

thank you

Blinger101 July 15, 2010 at 2:01 AM

Have you considered using a single piece of acrylic for the side pieces (with the top and bottom of the acrylic bent around the steel plates)? There’s a neat device I know of that uses a thin wire which has voltage run through it to heat it up (much like in a toaster). The acrylic is placed over top, with the wire heating the acrylic to the point where you can bend it easily.

I’m thinking this would be much more secure than multiple acrylic pieces glued together.

mikevspbhho July 15, 2010 at 3:01 AM

what did you clean the plates with when you first started the vspb block and did you sand them at all?

OsamaBinForgotten2 July 15, 2010 at 3:15 AM

Just a suggestion for the braces, use a pair of triangular pieces of plastic on the edges of the bottom braces to form an A bracket.

denver395 July 15, 2010 at 3:35 AM

Thank you for the details. I built my first cell out of enthusiasm, with fender washers, lock washers and 3 1/2 inch 5/16 bolt… and was not pleased with the results. Your style of design with neg.plates will be my next project. Keep posting-we will catch up soon. Denver395

CoolBooster July 15, 2010 at 4:32 AM

EasyTBear is right, you need efficiency, not volume. If you are producing 1 LPM at 40 amps, you will be use lots of power to make 40 amps. I use 10 to 15 amps to produce 1 LPM. Multi cells run in series work the best to lower heat. Many cells are to complicated, make multi cell units with 2 to 3 volts per cell.

I like using baking soda, because it is not dangerous. Caustic soda is a much better electrolyte, much less is required and it doesn’t gunk up your cells like baking soda.

EasyTBear July 15, 2010 at 5:29 AM

I have an unfinshed design using an inverted
4″ PVC wye. 2 3/4″ x 7 1/4″ plates, 12 or 14 cells divided into two groups wired in parallel. Neutral plates, edges sealed, etc. I have a construction issue with the electrodes having to be through the sides of the tube which lends itself to leaks. I may have to go to closer spacing and back to a straight tube like you did.

ZeroFossilFuel July 15, 2010 at 5:52 AM

ETB – You clearly have a firm grasp on the HHO game. Have you built anything yet that you can show off here?

EasyTBear July 15, 2010 at 6:02 AM

Use neutral plates and 1/4 – 1/2 amp per square inch current density (I calculated you are using 1.43 amps per square inch at 40 amps with the plate size you stated.) Also do something to limit current leakage such like what ZeroFossilFuel does or use shrink tubing. You are limited by the available power and size of generator you can install. You are producing a lot of steam.

ikegerto July 15, 2010 at 6:32 AM

EasyTBear, can you be more specific? I am running my unit with a 12V source ans 100x90mm plates. Playing about with no. of cells and also the gap. I want to get as much gas as possible to aid combustion so whilst efficiency is importany I need the gas!! How do you control heat to prevent the current?? I was pulling almoat 40A from my last cell but production was only approx 1LPM. Any comments would be gratefully received.

EasyTBear July 15, 2010 at 7:03 AM

Design your unit to use the power available. The number of cells based on the voltage. The plate size based on current density. Then you have to control heat to prevent current runaway. Efficiency is more important than gross hydroxy production.

slider1860 July 15, 2010 at 7:42 AM

I was wondering about that stuff too!

ZeroFossilFuel July 15, 2010 at 8:19 AM

ebay

ZeroFossilFuel July 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM

not even close

antimoron08 July 15, 2010 at 8:59 AM

hey dude where did you get your power supply from

Triple88a July 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM

its because its not a video thats flashing like 4th of july.. thats why a low rating.. most folks dont realize that knowledge is gained in a classroom.

dahduke July 15, 2010 at 9:47 AM

wow great work , are you running your car totaly on hho ?

norenester July 15, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Great vids zero. How do you feel the plastic tool dip we’ve all seen? Dip the edges and then there sealed. You think it’ll hold up against the process? Keep up the good work.

ZeroFossilFuel July 15, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I refuse to answer that question.

Visit the web site. Read the FAQ.

Eragonaiedail July 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM

hello ZFF,
I have great respect for everything you are showing and experimenting with, but one question. Why are u sealing off most of the top and bottom with the acrylic,is it not better to have greater surface area for greaet h2 production. Thanks.

bigwhitebird29 July 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Ive viewed several videos on the vspb cell.. what lead terminals are neg and pos, what is the lead configuration?

kpo86 July 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM

off point Little but do u make money for the adds running on your videos

thanks

Love your videos they are a big help

ZeroFossilFuel July 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM

I will not debate the benefits of neutral plates. Properly encased and insulated, they work as advertised. For more info seethe FAQ ay my web site.

alt-nrg*org

ikegerto July 15, 2010 at 11:51 AM

zero, I have found that neutral plates will reduce cell temp but also limits the reaction and therefore the amount of gas produced. I have some graphs comparing +/-, +n-, and +nnnnn- cells if it is of interest to you. I am trying to mazimise gas production but am struggling balancing this with temperature. Do you think regulating the voltage will help with this or will I just see a reduction in gas?? Any comments gratefully received.

aaronisdumbusa July 15, 2010 at 12:20 PM

how do you stack plates

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